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Errrrr cannibalism is murder
animals are tasty
Don’t know about people though. Perhaps vegans have a certain je ne sais quoi.
I can see that from the pic. Just about to have a bloodied steak. Actually, I’m not – it will probably be tomato soup and bread. Aaaaagggghhhh – am I turning vegan?
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Meat eating is clearly unnatural: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Male_Lion_and_Cub_Chitwa_South_Africa_Luca_Galuzzi_2004.JPG
Nice choice, Nigel.
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Been here and it was an experience !
One can imagine the fun that an ‘elf’n'safety inspector would have in the Carnivore Restaurant, Wiggy, if it was in London. All that smoke. They would be checking every customer to find the ones having a crafty Benson & Hedges.
The problem with this brand of vegan is they want to force their religion on everybody. Authoritarians.
The problem with people in general is they don’t seem to get there is aything wrong with forcing people to act how they want them to… and they are way too stupid to realise that if that works for _them_ then it also works for other people who don’t think _they_ act right.
“Maybe the government ought to do something about that, people ought not to be allowed… “NOT!
I just look at my incisors and molars on the occasions I can stand looking in the mirror and think – hmmm, wonder what incisors are designed for? Wonder what molars are for as well.
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I don’t think a demonstration is the same as authoritarianism. Plus they have a point, the meat industry is cruel.
That part is not in dispute, Richard and if I knew of any examples, I’d post them. Perhaps you have some links.
What is disputed by us is that these do-gooders want EVERYONE to stop eating meat, as if we are not omnivores.
It’s that coercive, blanket ruling about things natural which is so galling. The bansturbation.
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James, Hate to mention this but did you ever look at a panda’s teeth? Firmly in the order Carnivora biologically, yet the giant panda’s diet is 99% bamboo so your tooth argument does not necesarily work, or pandas would be tucking into juicy steaks.
Richard, of course a demo isn’t the same thing as authoritarianism, nor does it suggest those involved are not authoritarian. It does suggest a willingnes to collaterally inconvienience or worse anyone who gets in the way of spreading thir message.
But PETA, trendy hollywood yummy Mummy and delicios Daddy front faces and generous donations aside, it’s campaigns are ‘confrontational’ at best, and it has apparently helped fund the ALF and other advocates of direct action violence including arson.
They ‘officially’ do not overtly support violence, but make it clear that they don’t necesarily condemn initiatives that involve illegal direct action. Some of their deniable fellow travellers are arguably terrorists. Imposing ideology with violence.
The argument might be they exist because they don’t think the R/SPCA are tough enough, don’t break enough eggs making omletts.
Quoting Newkirk in her support of direct action she argues that no movement for ‘social change’ has ever succeeded without what she calls “the militarism component” saying in 2004 in support of the ALF “Thinkers may prepare revolutions, but bandits must carry them out”.
Not Authoritarian? Yeah right…
Moggsy, you are right about PETA, they are not nice people. They euthanize a huge amount of stray dogs, for instance. You are also right about dentition of the panda, a carnivorous body-plan which is vegetarian. James, of late I have been researching this topic ie vegetarian diets for man. Yes, we are omnivorous if we need to be, but we can exist on vegetables etc if we wish. The incidence of western diseases which include osteoporosis plus various cancers are linked to meat and dairy product consumption in what appears to be a clear correlation. I like meat but have cut it out except for eggs from my own hens, and have lost a lot of weight. I think that there may be a health benefit from eating less meat, but I am sure that an abbatoir is a miserable terrifying establishment for animals capable of feeling pain and fear. I will eat plant based food for that reason, as I am a soft-hearted fellow who is kind to animals. But I have no right to inflict my personal choice on others.
I’m kind to animals too, Richard … but I do eat them come dinner time, less now than I did, as you indicate but there are still things in meat, let alone the teeth benefit, which suggests I keep doing it.
By meat, I mean chicken, fish and beef. Nothing against pork but was never all that into it. Home roaming hens sound good.
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