The delicious edge of commenters …
… at two of the few non-leftist papers.
Whenever approaching a topic like this, where there are going to be barbs aplenty, the ghost of Cherie keeps hovering in the mind, saying, “Now you’ll never get anywhere, James, being nasty to people. If you swish to win friends and influence people, try being nice.”
And she’s right, absolutely right, as my mother was.
However, when Chuckles sent Stephen Pollard’s piece on Stephen Fry, it was always going to be delicious. As regulars here are sick of hearing, the people who were most welcoming when I began blogging were Stephen Pollard, Oliver Kamm, Norman Geras, Tim Worstall, Devil’s Kitchen, Chris Dillow and Mr Eugenides.
Stephen Pollard was where I was regularly commenting at the time and I thought I’d give it a go. At one stage, I nicked his entire piece about El Bulli and changed it round in my triple Saga, attributing of course. His piece on New Year’s Eve parties and why he hates them – compulsory conga lines for one – was a classic.
So his was one journo piece to enjoy for a change without having to go straight to comments after the tagline. However, it hit me like a smakeroo blurby right between the eyes that the comments really make an article these days – we might be down on these socio-political times but that is one advance I’d not like to see lost.
And on Fry, the boys and girls were going strong. Now this post is not designed to have a go at Fry per se, it’s just to showcase commenters, as it says on the tin above [yes I know that's an appalling cliche these days]. So here are some on Sir Stephen:
# I agree with you, and I do reach for the click-click whenever he appears nowadays, however, I am afraid that he will remain on the television for quite some time, as he manages to tick almost every box that a commissioner might have – a homosexualist, handicapped by virtue of bi-polar, frightful leftie, over weight, and, dare I say, he even has Jewish ancestors…
With such a CV he doesn’t even have to be witty…
# National Treasures??!! HA HA HA. Yes, we have lots of them thrust at us by the media, and what ridiculous, invariably sexually confused specimens they are. Fry is just another example of it.
# On the internet too – I recently needed a picture of a tin of sardines from google images and a cartoon of Fry managed to come up in the top ten search results…
It’s all because the poor fellow suffers very badly from depression and will have a breakdown if not constantly told how clever he is. Maybe we should just see it as our public duty to keep him happy?
# … and now he can get married too.
LOL.
# They used to call Jimmy Savile a ‘National Treasure’. ‘Nuff said.
# I like Peter Hitchens’ remark that Stephen Fry appeals to metropolitan liberals because he combines the manners and appearance of an English gentleman with the opinions of a Trotskyist lunatic..or words to that effect.
# The default position of the BBC these days is to applaud any reference to sodomy as wit, and use any avenue to criticise Christianity and Catholicism in particular. Hence we have the ubiquitous and odious Fry, who will undertake both without any prompting.
# Mock not Sir Stephen Fry. He is on a par of eminence and esteem with Mr Elton John, Ms Tracey Emin, the late Ms Jade Goody, the sage Mr Bob Geldof, and the not yet late, but hopefully soon to be, Sir Peter Hain, to name but a few shining stars in the constellation of fame.
Oh yes, the Albion Alliance [a minor irritant organization around the time of the last General Election] and Peter Hain have more than a passing acquaintance. Something about right-wing extremists I think it was.
LOL.
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“the comments really make an article these days”
Yes they do, although I come across some posts, not mine, which are so rounded and complete that it is not easy to think of a comment.
I can’t stand Fry. He’s one of those who take the easy route to approval via fashionable sentiment, misusing their wit to promote it.
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When you are two years old you have a temper tantrum because you cannot get what you want.
When you are a teenager you go into a sulk if people do not give you enough attention.
When you are grown up you cannot do either of those things (although some try) so you have to invent a ‘disease’ to deflect the blame for your egocentric narcissism; thus ‘bi-polar disorder’ It is nothing more than a hyper-sensitive ego.
And that’s even before I comment on Fry’s cleverness – he is a memory man not a thinker.
note that disease can also be written as dis-ease.
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I loved some wag’s remark that Fry is like a stupid man’s view of what a clever man must be.
With Fry its gone beyond the fact it is impossible to escape his omnipresence, but now his approval of anything and anybody is now put out on Twitter etc as if his seal of approval actually means anything and it is even reproduced in the press as worthy of attention, its like he is a one man? Which magazine, the off button for me every time.
Oh dear. I must come in more often. And there was me thinking I don’t get out much. I rarely see Fry, but when I do he is generally witty, even if Woodhouse provided the hints. Memo to me: I must watch more TV, then I can join in the cooler-talk.
Mind you 1), he does seem to be the flavour of the moment with the ABC here in Oz, which is one more reason not to watch QI with its collection of pooftas and his adventures roaming the world, and 2), he hasn’t appeared on Q&A as far as I know and I refuse to watch that anyway.
Ah! There is this one advantage of living in the USA ! You’ve reminded me of it, James: not having to watch or listen to the regular pompous outpourings of that bumptious overbearing snob! He gives the left a bad name!
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the ghost of Cherie keeps hovering in the mind
You have me a little worried… I didn’t realise that I was a ghost. I wonder if I have become a figment of my own imagination? :-/
Figment or not…
“Now you’ll never get anywhere, James, being nasty to people. If you wish to win friends and influence people, try being nice.”
Being nice, fair and honest is the only way to win hearts and minds

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“I loved some wag’s remark that Fry is like a stupid man’s view of what a clever man must be.”
Bulls-eye.
Of course you meant to say that Cherie is the angel on one shoulder, as opposed to the devil on the other.
So then who’s the devil on the – erm – never mind, I don’t want to know