Mel Gibson in “Conspiracy Theories” mentioned the tech and was plotting earthquakes.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9238/

Interesting, ….

Here is the article.
Enjoy

Now it may not be Haarp….Sub woofa sound can create earthquakes where ever you direct it.

The refusal of leadership of parties who should be supporting the people having a voice is one of the key factors stymying any progress on this.

There is no theory – read Parts 1 and 2 again. There is no theory – there only the fact as to what the EU are doing and the failure of the conservative and libertarian leadership to wake up to what is happening, meaning that either 1. there is a personal interest in a referendum not happening or 2. they haven’t read the material.

There is a window here until about the time of the election and shortly after it and during this window, it will be possible to put a referendum. After that it closes.

Are we going to wait for it all to fall apart and for the people to cry out why didn’t anyone say anything [Tebbit's post] and then try to have a referendum and find we no longer can because of the directives which are even now being put in place?

Are we going to wait until we are not technically the UK [this is already in a challengeable form even now] and then we have no rights under the ECA?

Or are we going to try on the 1688?

You tell me where the theory is in this.

One minute pre this post, James.

If you are going to have a “One World” currency, then other currencies have to fail, and there be no acknowledged replacement.

If you are going to have “One World” central bank, other central banks have to experience major difficulties, and a financial body has to be sitting in preparedness.

If you are going to have “One World” government, then MOST governments must fail, but the structure must have been pre-prepared and be sitting in readiness.

If you are going to have “One World” currency, then there can, and must, be no competing currencies….. will Gold be integrated somehow into a new “One World” currency?

and if you……………………………………

James, really.

I never said your beliefs were different to any facts, I said you can hold them, that is your right, and nothing to do with me if you don’t push them on me.

What I did say that is more important, that you chose to ignore, was that if you did more research you would find more that would help your convictions.

Buddy,you can’t impute that “my facts” are different, and erroneous, from your beliefs, and then proceed to criticise my “facts”. It is obvious that you are totally unaware of my facts (and you must be, knowing from whence some are sourced), otherwise you would not argue thus.

James said: He draws on sources and I draw on sources, including those of Gnosis. The question of the artificiers by no means negates the divinity…..

Buddy…. Yes it does negate divinity in the eyes of the people who witnessed its use. I have spoken repeatedly about a technology that was used, a technology 4000/6000 years before it’s time that has only just been re-discovered. I have also repeatedly stated that time is not linear in specific contexts. I have also said in the same contexts that the preservation of mass/energy in this universe is NOT as the textbooks would have us believe. I have said all this repeatedly, but you have ignored it.
So, how do you think the “man in the street” of 2000/4000/6000 years ago would regard highly skilled artificiers who use this technology?
Would they call them Gods? or “A God”?

James said: and most gnostic sources conflate a number of realities but that’s a whole field in itself

Yes it is a “whole field” in itself, and I might add that the “conflation” was deliberately induced at times, but the genuine artificiers had no use, nor need, for mind altering substances, although certain “cults” made heavy use, ….. indeed a clear, disciplined mind was a pre-requisite.

You may care to reflect on the labyrinth and the thread, in a general manner.

“exclusivism”……

Is a label invented to describe an attitude…… a debate of no use in this context, which also objectively, means nothing.

“Holy Spirit”……

A concept that pre-dates Christianity by about 3000 years, so, not exclusive at all.

James you are miss-understanding so much, and this format is not the place.

Maybe some day….

BTW, if you’ve been on anti-biotics for so long your immune system is screwed. Take care buddy.