Raft of EU legislation ready to go

European Union Directory of Community legislation in preparation:

No need to take the EU into account, leaders of the Tories, Labour, Lib Dems and LPUK?  We can wait five years to think about a referendum?

9 Responses to “Raft of EU legislation ready to go”

  1. From the LPUK manifesto;

    ‘The Libertarian Party would take the UK out of the European Union. ‘

    Can’t get more clear than that, really.


  2. Oh yes it can, Harry – your leadership refuses to do that and stated quite explicitly that they will NOT campaign for a referendum to take us out. Your manifesto does not say when – it could be in the year 2020.

    Can’t get more clear than that, really.

    LPUK are playing word games and f—ing round. Meanwhile, the above [in the post] is taking place.

    YOU CANNOT WAIT FIVE YEARS IF YOU WISH IT TO HAPPEN, otherwise, the manifesto pledge is no better than one of the Cameron Tories’. Your leader spoke of “practical politics”. Well there are the practical politics above. The only mechanism available [and it is a diminishing one, month by month] is to act within the first year of the new parliament.

    By the way, thanks for dropping by, Harry.


  3. I think your missing the point of LPUK, that is, to give people an option of a libertarian vote. Getting dragged into single issue campaigns isn’t the point of the party, however noble they may be, that is best left to single issue pressure groups, such as the Albion Alliance, etc.


  4. This is not a single issue campaign, Harry. This issue is merely the portal, the first stage, the first step through to all the other policies we wish to see come about. LPUK is committed to liberty, yes? Please look at this article:

    http://nourishingobscurity.com/2010/02/24/specific-ways-the-eu-operates/

    … and then tell me where you see any possibility of any form of libertarianism in that. This is what we’re up against – there are people who have done the research and are presenting it; then there are people who have not done it, won’t read it but still come out with statements about it not being important.

    How does one deal with such a mindset?

    Let’s look at Article 490, for example. How does LPUK plan to deal with this, which removes liberties on the whim of a committee, without oversight? Surely LPUK woud be concerned with that?

    LPUK is in the business of libertarianism – the freedom to do as we wish, within reasonable constraints. Many others and I have painstakingly being showing how it is not possible under the EU – we’ve quoted chapter and verse.

    And what happens? Someone comes in and makes an assertion which neither fisks not addresses the concerns expressed in those articles but merely says it’s not an important issue.

    What can one do?


  5. This may give England the chance to hose out some of the sh*t from westminster!


  6. To Libertarians – what do you dear folk think of this?

    http://faustiesblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/epp-eus-latest-assault-on-our-freedoms.html

    The intention of establishing an EPP’s office was elicited from the neo-Commissioner, A Semeta, by UKIP’s Marta Andreasen, during the EP hearings of the new Commissioners on January 12th.

    However, the decision to support or veto the EPP proposal will have to be made after the UK’s general election. It will therefore be the decision of the next British government; the current government’s announced opposition to the EPP will not bind a future government.

    As you know, Article 86 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU), provides for the possible establishment of the Office of European Public Prosecutor from EUROJUST. For such a proposal to become law, however, there must be unanimity in the Council: in other words, the United Kingdom retains a veto on the creation of an EPP. This requirement puts the United Kingdom in a very strong position to prevent the creation of such a post when it is presented to the Council.

    This is because we are in the EU. We need to get out before any more of this sort of thing happens. If we remain inside, on the grounds that party leaders have agreed to revisit the EU question after five years, then it is too damned late – the new laws will already be in place.

    The only way to validate an immediate withdrawal is with the will of the people. The only way to effect that is to have a referendum.

    Any LPUK member, in order to support the terms of his manifesto, should support withdrawal from the EU and to do this, as you have seen in the material above and here:

    http://pjcjournal.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/1429/

    It will be too late in five years.


  7. The experience I learned today is that in the lead up to the general election you need to get up to parliament and talk face to face with the MPs. Their main concern is in getting elected. But if you can explain your case to them and you can get them to accept your position they will take in on board.


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