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		<title>By: James Higham</title>
		<link>http://nourishingobscurity.com/2009/12/05/meredith-kercher-has-been-avenged/comment-page-1/#comment-3373</link>
		<dc:creator>James Higham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was the most balanced one I&#039;ve seen although it is old:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/216903</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the most balanced one I&#8217;ve seen although it is old:</p>
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		<title>By: jameshigham</title>
		<link>http://nourishingobscurity.com/2009/12/05/meredith-kercher-has-been-avenged/comment-page-1/#comment-3364</link>
		<dc:creator>jameshigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Lord Nazh - it says much and saves me the job.  Obviously guilty but that pretty face sways people:

 Lord Nazh says:
December 12, 2009 at 19:46

Completely OT James but thought you’d enjoy this clip :)

http://video.foxnews.com/12407479/justice-served?test=latestnews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Lord Nazh &#8211; it says much and saves me the job.  Obviously guilty but that pretty face sways people:</p>
<p> Lord Nazh says:<br />
December 12, 2009 at 19:46</p>
<p>Completely OT James but thought you’d enjoy this clip <img src='http://nourishingobscurity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://video.foxnews.com/12407479/justice-served?test=latestnews" rel="nofollow">http://video.foxnews.com/12407479/justice-served?test=latestnews</a></p>
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		<title>By: alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention the tiny amount of DNA found on the bra was Sollecitos and what is odd is that it was just found on the bra clip and not the material. It has been lying in the house for 7 weeks before it was discovered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention the tiny amount of DNA found on the bra was Sollecitos and what is odd is that it was just found on the bra clip and not the material. It has been lying in the house for 7 weeks before it was discovered.</p>
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		<title>By: alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The case file is freely available on line. It&#039;s pretty unconvincing. 

The most interesting thing to me is that Guede on the run made a skype call in which he stated Knox wasn&#039;t in the house. He also never even mentioned Knox as a murderer when we was brought back from Germany. It wasn&#039;t until he learned that the prosecution wanted to put her at the scene that he cooked up a version that included her and Sollecito. 

The prosecutor has a history of being a delusional fantasist cooking up stories as elaborate as this alleged group sex crime. The prosecutor&#039;s story also changed. Both he and the Judge claimed to know the story and be already formulating the conviction in their minds at the very start of the trial. Their versions also included the bar owner, but then shifted to Guede. Once the prosecution had more information about Knox and Sollecito&#039;s alibis, he and his team also shifted the estimated time of death by 2 hours so it could better fit their version of Knox-Sollecito involvement. It is entirely possible the suggestion of the bar owner was put to Knox by the police.

If you are going to implicate anyone of a murder when you are supposedly with them in a sordid group act, why not implicate Guede who ran away guilty and whose DNA was all over the scene? That they didn&#039;t suggests they didn&#039;t know he was there. 

The police don&#039;t even have a murder weapon. They pulled a random knife from a kitchen drawer at Sollecitos house so of course it would have DNA on it.  It wasn&#039;t even matched to the knife stains at the scene or the wounds in her neck.

I think Guede acted alone. What has been lost in all this is that Meredith was the one who invited him into the house.

She is detached and rather odd and I also think the suggestion the Knox family were going to make money with a book deal on all this is disgusting. I just don&#039;t believe there is sufficient evidence even circumstantial that the two kids are guilty of a group orgy style murder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The case file is freely available on line. It&#8217;s pretty unconvincing. </p>
<p>The most interesting thing to me is that Guede on the run made a skype call in which he stated Knox wasn&#8217;t in the house. He also never even mentioned Knox as a murderer when we was brought back from Germany. It wasn&#8217;t until he learned that the prosecution wanted to put her at the scene that he cooked up a version that included her and Sollecito. </p>
<p>The prosecutor has a history of being a delusional fantasist cooking up stories as elaborate as this alleged group sex crime. The prosecutor&#8217;s story also changed. Both he and the Judge claimed to know the story and be already formulating the conviction in their minds at the very start of the trial. Their versions also included the bar owner, but then shifted to Guede. Once the prosecution had more information about Knox and Sollecito&#8217;s alibis, he and his team also shifted the estimated time of death by 2 hours so it could better fit their version of Knox-Sollecito involvement. It is entirely possible the suggestion of the bar owner was put to Knox by the police.</p>
<p>If you are going to implicate anyone of a murder when you are supposedly with them in a sordid group act, why not implicate Guede who ran away guilty and whose DNA was all over the scene? That they didn&#8217;t suggests they didn&#8217;t know he was there. </p>
<p>The police don&#8217;t even have a murder weapon. They pulled a random knife from a kitchen drawer at Sollecitos house so of course it would have DNA on it.  It wasn&#8217;t even matched to the knife stains at the scene or the wounds in her neck.</p>
<p>I think Guede acted alone. What has been lost in all this is that Meredith was the one who invited him into the house.</p>
<p>She is detached and rather odd and I also think the suggestion the Knox family were going to make money with a book deal on all this is disgusting. I just don&#8217;t believe there is sufficient evidence even circumstantial that the two kids are guilty of a group orgy style murder.</p>
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		<title>By: James Higham</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Higham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am set up ready for another post on this with the 13 points of evidence and how the media are changing their tune now but I thought - nah, people have probably had enough of this issue for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am set up ready for another post on this with the 13 points of evidence and how the media are changing their tune now but I thought &#8211; nah, people have probably had enough of this issue for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill quango MP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill quango MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems the prosecution was trying to say that Knox&#039;s DNA had come into contact with the knife at the police station. That old desperate dismissal of inconvenient facts. It was an error.The bloody footprints in her lover&#039;s flat were an error too. As was her DNA on the bra clasp, as was her assertion that her boss had killed Meredith and her inability to come up with a convincing alibi.

Its pretty water tight. Not 100% but at least 80%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the prosecution was trying to say that Knox&#8217;s DNA had come into contact with the knife at the police station. That old desperate dismissal of inconvenient facts. It was an error.The bloody footprints in her lover&#8217;s flat were an error too. As was her DNA on the bra clasp, as was her assertion that her boss had killed Meredith and her inability to come up with a convincing alibi.</p>
<p>Its pretty water tight. Not 100% but at least 80%.</p>
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		<title>By: alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sympathies are with the victim. I&#039;d just like to be 100% assured that the guilty persons are in fact guilty. I&#039;m not convinced like you that they are. For the same reasons as Wolfie. In the end the trial felt little like it was about Meredith and more about the chief prosecutor and his history of fantasising exotic murders. With a mysterious Knox at the centre it was case closed by accusation before the trial had even started. I&#039;m sure you can see that it was all about the victim&#039;s beauty and the alleged&#039;s mysterious &quot;she-devil&quot; air,  James. She devils in 2009 eh? It was all a flamboyant Italian show. Hardly about justice. For such a gruesome and bloody murder and with two allegedly clearcut criminals, there was barely any real DNA evidence to link them at all. There should have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sympathies are with the victim. I&#8217;d just like to be 100% assured that the guilty persons are in fact guilty. I&#8217;m not convinced like you that they are. For the same reasons as Wolfie. In the end the trial felt little like it was about Meredith and more about the chief prosecutor and his history of fantasising exotic murders. With a mysterious Knox at the centre it was case closed by accusation before the trial had even started. I&#8217;m sure you can see that it was all about the victim&#8217;s beauty and the alleged&#8217;s mysterious &#8220;she-devil&#8221; air,  James. She devils in 2009 eh? It was all a flamboyant Italian show. Hardly about justice. For such a gruesome and bloody murder and with two allegedly clearcut criminals, there was barely any real DNA evidence to link them at all. There should have been.</p>
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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
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		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So every time I was brought to him having been caught fighting the larger bullies who had been terrorising me I was the one who was punished.&lt;/i&gt;

I can sympathise with that.  I have seen it happen to other people and it has happened to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So every time I was brought to him having been caught fighting the larger bullies who had been terrorising me I was the one who was punished.</i></p>
<p>I can sympathise with that.  I have seen it happen to other people and it has happened to me!</p>
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		<title>By: James Higham</title>
		<link>http://nourishingobscurity.com/2009/12/05/meredith-kercher-has-been-avenged/comment-page-1/#comment-3007</link>
		<dc:creator>James Higham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The jury had zilch to do with the media.  Defenders of Knox point to the media circus, which incidentally turned her into a superstar and Wolfie refers to his sixth sense but doesn&#039;t concede that same capacity to someone else whose living was sussing out porkies.

In the end it does not come down to us, it comes down to exhaustive consideration of the evidence, as it always had to be and of course - she was guilty.  I would have thought Alison&#039;s sympathies would have been with the poor victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The jury had zilch to do with the media.  Defenders of Knox point to the media circus, which incidentally turned her into a superstar and Wolfie refers to his sixth sense but doesn&#8217;t concede that same capacity to someone else whose living was sussing out porkies.</p>
<p>In the end it does not come down to us, it comes down to exhaustive consideration of the evidence, as it always had to be and of course &#8211; she was guilty.  I would have thought Alison&#8217;s sympathies would have been with the poor victim.</p>
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		<title>By: alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Wolfie on this one who summarises my thoughts precisely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Wolfie on this one who summarises my thoughts precisely.</p>
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		<title>By: Jailhouselawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jailhouselawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with Ross on this one. Knox seemed to think she was I&#039;m a celebrity get me out of here. All in good time dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with Ross on this one. Knox seemed to think she was I&#8217;m a celebrity get me out of here. All in good time dear.</p>
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		<title>By: James Higham</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Higham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t see much in the way of physical evidence at the murder scene or DNA&quot;

Sort of like not seeing much evidence of a lady being pregnant - just a little bit, Wolfie.  :)

Tiberius - yes I can.  People give themselves away when they least expect they are.  They only have to act and talk.

It&#039;s certainly not anything to be pleased about but it is pleasing that the Kercher family saw it come to an end.  They&#039;re the main ones now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t see much in the way of physical evidence at the murder scene or DNA&#8221;</p>
<p>Sort of like not seeing much evidence of a lady being pregnant &#8211; just a little bit, Wolfie.  <img src='http://nourishingobscurity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Tiberius &#8211; yes I can.  People give themselves away when they least expect they are.  They only have to act and talk.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly not anything to be pleased about but it is pleasing that the Kercher family saw it come to an end.  They&#8217;re the main ones now.</p>
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		<title>By: gracchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>gracchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and incidentally hope whatever was going on this morning went well!</description>
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		<title>By: gracchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>gracchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful James- there are two principles here that are important. The first is the presumption of innocence- now that Knox has been established beyond reasonable doubt in a court as guilty- I accept that she is probably guilty though we should wait for the appeals before pronouncing (though not before punishing.) Secondly I dispute your assumption that you can condemn a person just like that- I&#039;d remind you of the gospel, let him who is without sin cast the first stone and the role of judgement in the Gospels which is a prerogative of God not man. You cannot see inside Knox&#039;s head anymore than I can, you weren&#039;t there on the night- on the balance of probabilities there are good reasons to believe according to the court that Knox committed the crime and civilly she is guilty but as a person she is just a person- a truth you accept with Jailhouse Lawyer who is as guilty as Knox and you should accept with her. 

Lastly as a related point, her nickname Foxy Knoxy was supposedly according to the guardian given to her because of her skills at football- not for any other reasons. I understand that given your ethical system a girl who sleeps around is not someone you sympathise with, but are there any reasons to dislike morally a girl who is a scheming centre forward!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful James- there are two principles here that are important. The first is the presumption of innocence- now that Knox has been established beyond reasonable doubt in a court as guilty- I accept that she is probably guilty though we should wait for the appeals before pronouncing (though not before punishing.) Secondly I dispute your assumption that you can condemn a person just like that- I&#8217;d remind you of the gospel, let him who is without sin cast the first stone and the role of judgement in the Gospels which is a prerogative of God not man. You cannot see inside Knox&#8217;s head anymore than I can, you weren&#8217;t there on the night- on the balance of probabilities there are good reasons to believe according to the court that Knox committed the crime and civilly she is guilty but as a person she is just a person- a truth you accept with Jailhouse Lawyer who is as guilty as Knox and you should accept with her. </p>
<p>Lastly as a related point, her nickname Foxy Knoxy was supposedly according to the guardian given to her because of her skills at football- not for any other reasons. I understand that given your ethical system a girl who sleeps around is not someone you sympathise with, but are there any reasons to dislike morally a girl who is a scheming centre forward!</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say I agree with you on this one. My sixth sense is ringing. I don&#039;t see much in the way of physical evidence at the murder scene or DNA either ,  the relationship with Guede was not established by the prosecution and their explanation of a &quot;drug fuelled sex game&quot; somewhat far fetched. 

You should be more wary when the tabloids are spoon-feeding larger than life characterisations - especially of women whom they love to fashion into modern witches James. Your are starting to sound like JHL with his home-spun misogyny. 


The headmaster at my old prep-school was a local JP and believed like you that he could just read people&#039;s characters. So every time I was brought to him having been caught fighting the larger bullies who had been terrorising me I was the one who was punished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say I agree with you on this one. My sixth sense is ringing. I don&#8217;t see much in the way of physical evidence at the murder scene or DNA either ,  the relationship with Guede was not established by the prosecution and their explanation of a &#8220;drug fuelled sex game&#8221; somewhat far fetched. </p>
<p>You should be more wary when the tabloids are spoon-feeding larger than life characterisations &#8211; especially of women whom they love to fashion into modern witches James. Your are starting to sound like JHL with his home-spun misogyny. </p>
<p>The headmaster at my old prep-school was a local JP and believed like you that he could just read people&#8217;s characters. So every time I was brought to him having been caught fighting the larger bullies who had been terrorising me I was the one who was punished.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stand it when the media ignore the victim and make the perpetrator a celebrity.</description>
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