As it is a plan to reform localism within regions of the EU, (but as Hannan has now admitted it cannot happen, as quoted by Nigel Sedgwick above), what purpose is being served by these ‘progressives’ other than to distract.

Whilst The Plan has many good elements they are only valid if they are introduced for the right reasons, unless it is unequivocally aimed at a UK outside of the EU, Dan’s motives will always remain suspect. So I agree with James, Dan must climb down off the fence and declare himself.

The Europhiles would have you believe that we are so tied by law into the EU that it cannot possibly be reversed. I have though heard no such argument being made in relation to the devolution of powers to Scotland, Wales and NI, where the relationships and laws are far more tightly intertwined. With these it seems to be so quick and easy, but with the EU …….. ?

We are being lied to and forced down a path which will lead us into a virtual undemocratic slavery. Forget Hannan, he looks good on YouTube but has no substance in power to change anything.

We must all keep on pointing out the flaws in the EU system (and the UK for that matter) and fighting for true democracy. But this must be done by reason and proper political action, not the usual blogging way of personal abuse and vitriol.

It may be that you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t, but, truly, what is the point of staying in the tory party, when it is clear that they will change nothing with respect to Britain’s position in the EU? The tories are just as much the enemy as labour. Hannan will not be dictating policy to Cameron’s clique. He is either a captive, who needs rescuing from the tory party, or just a distraction.

Thereby, they hide their affiliations and hypocrisy.

I like and respect Dan, and it might well be that his hands are tied and he is unable to submit an effective policy, at this time, without subjecting himself to a call for his ousting.

Perhaps he’s hanging on with a view to staging an effective assault on TPTB when the political landscape is more likely to produce a desirable outcome. I suspect that this is the case.

We’d like to see this clarified. “We” mean the people of this island and if their opinion is not as expressed in AA, then AA will go no further and will wither away. However, as it is not doing that and as the meeting last evening shows, when everyone presented reports, this thing is moving out into the community now.

AA is based on a ridiculously simple premise: if we’re barking up the wrong tree, then we’ll go no further. If we represent the thoughts of many people, then we will. I for one and perfectly happy for that to happen either way.

Thanks, Nigel.

Thus Mr Hannan sees the EU as not amenable to reform, so (presumably in his view) the only real option for the UK is withdrawal, to some less embracing European club along the lines of free trade, as he describes in both of his articles, though in different ways.

Daniel Hannan is, IMHO, by far the most significant UK politician to be consistently (and also politely with much rational argument) in favour of UK withdrawal from the EU. James’ call to him to phrase his views precisely according to the wishes of James and others (the Albion Alliance) is actually a call for Mr Hannan to shout unpleasantly right into the face of the leader of his political party. I’m pretty sure that will do no good for the cause of EU withdrawal, because it will do even less for the useful political influence of Mr Hannan.

Best regards