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		<title>By: James Higham</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Higham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just been talking to a young lad down the road, my trainer actually and he is a typical non-political in a Labour area.  He is dead worried and was asking me everything under the sun about it all.

The big issue which depresses him and I&#039;m so glad Lord T posted, is the massacre.  I just haven&#039;t been able to get to it yet.</description>
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<p>The big issue which depresses him and I&#8217;m so glad Lord T posted, is the massacre.  I just haven&#8217;t been able to get to it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: xxxl</title>
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		<dc:creator>xxxl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,


Sonus has shown on these pages, how  the major US, UK, and European Banks are financially backing the entities (CP, Tavistock, and the entire bag full, etc) that are responsible for the undermining of our civilisation.

Senior politicians in the US, UK, and Europe, have engineered the &quot;bailouts&quot; to ensure the survival of these major banks, on the back of the taxpayers. The deficit financing to build up global imbalances and the build up of debt:GDP has been deliberate, the level of derivatives on BIS-Table 19, required to control the financial universe show many stories.

The frantic &quot;money printing&quot; is ensuring the eventual devaluation of western currencies.
Devaluing western currencies in terms of &quot;balance of trade-surplus countries&quot;, is effectively a transfer of wealth (international purchasing power) to those exporting nations.

It was western politicians who granted WTO membership, and favoured nation status, principally Clinton when President, to China, which broke WTO rules regarding openness of capital markets, convertibility of currency, etc, leading to the hollowing out of the US manufacturing base, and now similar action in the EU manufacturing base.

The outline of the whole &quot;carbon issue&quot; is essentially a loss of finance, and a loss of economic power generation in the west, with a finance and technology transfer to the east. The same behind the scenes actors involved in the above finance issues, are involved in the &quot;carbon issues&quot;.

Everything is geared to the deliberate impoverishment of the west and a gain to the east, at the self same time that draconian losses of personal liberties throughout the west are being legislated.

Chinese strident calls for a One World Currency, a basket of currencies different to the existing basket, to be used for international trade settlements, and convertible into existing national currencies, commenced after Hitlarys visit to China immediately after the Obarmy election.

I have no quarrel with eventual equalisation of east-west standards of living, and no quarrel with a basket of currencies that properly reflects the current global situation, but I have every quarrel with the deliberate impoverishment of the entire western middle class rather than a progressive raising up of eastern standards of living.

I also have every quarrel with the obvious current plans, that those responsible for the impoverishment of western middle classes who are continuing to be rewarded with large bonuses, and various international bodies who were capable of seeing these current economic imbalances and who failed to take action to prevent them, should be the very bodies that will administer, advise, set economic standards, set financial exchange rates, and generally continue to be responsible for the further impoverishment of western society, because it has been western society and its freedoms that has produced the &quot;individual&quot; mindset, capable of rising above nationalism, and searching out and understanding the deluge of disenfranchisement  that is shortly to descend in the west. 

In short, I suppose you could say that we have been screwed for decades by ALL our alleged leaders, and it has been, for some time, more than just a European thing, rather it is very international.

We castigate, for example, the UN Human Rights Commission, for the Human Rights track record of the nations comprising its body.

I similarly am drawing attention the the obvious failings of the bodies to be responsible for the international structures now taking shape that will shortly rule the world.

The saying that cream rises to the top is obviously incorrect. 

It is the useless, parasitic scum that rises, by subterfuge and deceit and bare faced lies.

Don&#039;t think for a moment that an exit from EUSSR, as difficult as that will be, will be a time for R &amp; R ans celebration.

That will merely be the end of the prelude.

In order to proceed after that, an Albion that is strong enough to lead the Planet away from the feudalistic structures now rapidly falling into place at the hands of the global finance based elites will need to be formed. (The technologies are there, they have been ignored). The truth is that as a species, and absent wars, and other stupid destructions of economic value via inflated bureaucracies/governments and data bases etc, we are extraordinarily good at making widgets.

Globally the working week, given peace and eventual spread of civilisation, need never be more than probably 10 hours. The rest being devoted to research, leisure, space research/exploration, or whatever. Since the current leaders recognise their own dishonesty, they dare not allow the middle-classes time for reflection and thought, their actions do not withstand critical scrutiny. They know this, this is why they are all liars and why feudalism will be used.

I believe that achieving that sort of society via a grass-roots rebuild, to be the enormity of the task to be undertaking by an invigorated Albion. 

Hope springs..................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>Sonus has shown on these pages, how  the major US, UK, and European Banks are financially backing the entities (CP, Tavistock, and the entire bag full, etc) that are responsible for the undermining of our civilisation.</p>
<p>Senior politicians in the US, UK, and Europe, have engineered the &#8220;bailouts&#8221; to ensure the survival of these major banks, on the back of the taxpayers. The deficit financing to build up global imbalances and the build up of debt:GDP has been deliberate, the level of derivatives on BIS-Table 19, required to control the financial universe show many stories.</p>
<p>The frantic &#8220;money printing&#8221; is ensuring the eventual devaluation of western currencies.<br />
Devaluing western currencies in terms of &#8220;balance of trade-surplus countries&#8221;, is effectively a transfer of wealth (international purchasing power) to those exporting nations.</p>
<p>It was western politicians who granted WTO membership, and favoured nation status, principally Clinton when President, to China, which broke WTO rules regarding openness of capital markets, convertibility of currency, etc, leading to the hollowing out of the US manufacturing base, and now similar action in the EU manufacturing base.</p>
<p>The outline of the whole &#8220;carbon issue&#8221; is essentially a loss of finance, and a loss of economic power generation in the west, with a finance and technology transfer to the east. The same behind the scenes actors involved in the above finance issues, are involved in the &#8220;carbon issues&#8221;.</p>
<p>Everything is geared to the deliberate impoverishment of the west and a gain to the east, at the self same time that draconian losses of personal liberties throughout the west are being legislated.</p>
<p>Chinese strident calls for a One World Currency, a basket of currencies different to the existing basket, to be used for international trade settlements, and convertible into existing national currencies, commenced after Hitlarys visit to China immediately after the Obarmy election.</p>
<p>I have no quarrel with eventual equalisation of east-west standards of living, and no quarrel with a basket of currencies that properly reflects the current global situation, but I have every quarrel with the deliberate impoverishment of the entire western middle class rather than a progressive raising up of eastern standards of living.</p>
<p>I also have every quarrel with the obvious current plans, that those responsible for the impoverishment of western middle classes who are continuing to be rewarded with large bonuses, and various international bodies who were capable of seeing these current economic imbalances and who failed to take action to prevent them, should be the very bodies that will administer, advise, set economic standards, set financial exchange rates, and generally continue to be responsible for the further impoverishment of western society, because it has been western society and its freedoms that has produced the &#8220;individual&#8221; mindset, capable of rising above nationalism, and searching out and understanding the deluge of disenfranchisement  that is shortly to descend in the west. </p>
<p>In short, I suppose you could say that we have been screwed for decades by ALL our alleged leaders, and it has been, for some time, more than just a European thing, rather it is very international.</p>
<p>We castigate, for example, the UN Human Rights Commission, for the Human Rights track record of the nations comprising its body.</p>
<p>I similarly am drawing attention the the obvious failings of the bodies to be responsible for the international structures now taking shape that will shortly rule the world.</p>
<p>The saying that cream rises to the top is obviously incorrect. </p>
<p>It is the useless, parasitic scum that rises, by subterfuge and deceit and bare faced lies.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think for a moment that an exit from EUSSR, as difficult as that will be, will be a time for R &amp; R ans celebration.</p>
<p>That will merely be the end of the prelude.</p>
<p>In order to proceed after that, an Albion that is strong enough to lead the Planet away from the feudalistic structures now rapidly falling into place at the hands of the global finance based elites will need to be formed. (The technologies are there, they have been ignored). The truth is that as a species, and absent wars, and other stupid destructions of economic value via inflated bureaucracies/governments and data bases etc, we are extraordinarily good at making widgets.</p>
<p>Globally the working week, given peace and eventual spread of civilisation, need never be more than probably 10 hours. The rest being devoted to research, leisure, space research/exploration, or whatever. Since the current leaders recognise their own dishonesty, they dare not allow the middle-classes time for reflection and thought, their actions do not withstand critical scrutiny. They know this, this is why they are all liars and why feudalism will be used.</p>
<p>I believe that achieving that sort of society via a grass-roots rebuild, to be the enormity of the task to be undertaking by an invigorated Albion. </p>
<p>Hope springs&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and Cameron is on &quot;The List&quot;, so we can&#039;t trust him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and Cameron is on &#8220;The List&#8221;, so we can&#8217;t trust him.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the theory James, it just seems so fantastical though!

I found something called &quot;The List&quot;, must be connected...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=6552&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Who&#039;s Who, The List&lt;/a&gt;

Also this &lt;a href=&quot;http://drjn.co.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Truth about the EU&lt;/a&gt; via Captain Ranty. All scary stuff, like I said.

At least it shows who our enemies are.
Albion is great James, I&#039;ve been thinking about this all day..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the theory James, it just seems so fantastical though!</p>
<p>I found something called &#8220;The List&#8221;, must be connected&#8230;<a href="http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=6552" rel="nofollow">Who&#8217;s Who, The List</a></p>
<p>Also this <a href="http://drjn.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">The Truth about the EU</a> via Captain Ranty. All scary stuff, like I said.</p>
<p>At least it shows who our enemies are.<br />
Albion is great James, I&#8217;ve been thinking about this all day..</p>
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		<title>By: James Higham</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Higham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think I might have something here:

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		<title>By: James Higham</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Higham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue,  IPJ is no theorist.  Too many sane people of note keep pointing this way but it is preventable, as long as we know the extent of the task. What we are agreed on though is that we must exit the EU now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue,  IPJ is no theorist.  Too many sane people of note keep pointing this way but it is preventable, as long as we know the extent of the task. What we are agreed on though is that we must exit the EU now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This all sounds very scary. 

Talk about conspiracy theories!

I&#039;m not even sure I want to live in Europe at all at the moment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all sounds very scary. </p>
<p>Talk about conspiracy theories!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even sure I want to live in Europe at all at the moment!</p>
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		<title>By: Lord T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.   The biggest problem I see is the Eurospecptics who actually still think they can influence cameron by staying inside the tory party.  That is the false belief many had about the EU itself.  We will have more chance to influence from within.   I wonder how many Christians felt that way about the lions they met in Rome.

Then there is cameron himself.   We don&#039;t believe promises they actually make will be carried out.  Why is it we stupidly believe hints that they may do something at some undisclosed time because we are so desperate to get rid of Gordo?

CherryPie is right about one thing.  There are many labour supporters out there that still believe in their cause.   All Gordo has to do is step down and be replaced by someone with a hint of the old labour and making the right noises and they will all come flooding back.   Cameron’s bare lead will be swept away because he is seen as pretty useless by most people, even true tories and split votes will count badly.

I’m getting so frustrated over this country that I’m actually looking forward to taking it out on politicians and their hangers on as a stress relief valve.  Once it is completely legal of course.  Can’t consider breaking any laws. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.   The biggest problem I see is the Eurospecptics who actually still think they can influence cameron by staying inside the tory party.  That is the false belief many had about the EU itself.  We will have more chance to influence from within.   I wonder how many Christians felt that way about the lions they met in Rome.</p>
<p>Then there is cameron himself.   We don&#8217;t believe promises they actually make will be carried out.  Why is it we stupidly believe hints that they may do something at some undisclosed time because we are so desperate to get rid of Gordo?</p>
<p>CherryPie is right about one thing.  There are many labour supporters out there that still believe in their cause.   All Gordo has to do is step down and be replaced by someone with a hint of the old labour and making the right noises and they will all come flooding back.   Cameron’s bare lead will be swept away because he is seen as pretty useless by most people, even true tories and split votes will count badly.</p>
<p>I’m getting so frustrated over this country that I’m actually looking forward to taking it out on politicians and their hangers on as a stress relief valve.  Once it is completely legal of course.  Can’t consider breaking any laws. <img src='http://nourishingobscurity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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