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		<title>By: Fat Hen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Hen</dc:creator>
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		<description>I refer the honourable blogger to the lengthy rambling post I made on the education entry, which talks about the importance of the first 6-7 years of a child&#039;s life being paramount and the key to most problems we&#039;re having ;&gt;

Get that right, and no amount of drugs, welfare, stupidity and hedonism will derail that person from the straight and proper line in life.

Because, it&#039;s the person, not the outside influence who calls the shots, but if they have been not been trained to have a concept of having a plan in life and following that... all bets are off unfortunately,they are but a leaf in life&#039;s gales.  And the other problem is that not allowing people to fail demeans humanity itself ;-(

Niggle: &#039;we don&#039;t need no education&#039; referred to the brainwash going down (see the same post again pls).  I totally agree, no-one needs *that kind of education*.

Remark: Discipline is taught before the age of 7.  If you still need to test it (and don&#039;t understand the value of it or think your contemporaries are retards) you already have problems (alcohol etc or not).  The girl you mention will not get it to the level you wish her to, and hoping she will one day is only going to frustrate you (care to bet on it?) ;)

Judeo-Christian: it&#039;s the original problem as goes, the spirituality of it is weak, which is why it&#039;s been annihilated in the first place... we need better ethics this time round, not myth based emotional stuff that survives humanity.  Seriously, have a listen of this: http://librivox.org/manners-customs-and-dress-during-the-middle-ages-and-during-the-renaissance-period-by-paul-lacroix/  -- it was one way of doing things, but it depended on people not thinking too much about life itself.  We need a more robust moral concept that survives individuality and leads by moral reason, not by a life-by-numbers systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refer the honourable blogger to the lengthy rambling post I made on the education entry, which talks about the importance of the first 6-7 years of a child&#8217;s life being paramount and the key to most problems we&#8217;re having ;&gt;</p>
<p>Get that right, and no amount of drugs, welfare, stupidity and hedonism will derail that person from the straight and proper line in life.</p>
<p>Because, it&#8217;s the person, not the outside influence who calls the shots, but if they have been not been trained to have a concept of having a plan in life and following that&#8230; all bets are off unfortunately,they are but a leaf in life&#8217;s gales.  And the other problem is that not allowing people to fail demeans humanity itself ;-(</p>
<p>Niggle: &#8216;we don&#8217;t need no education&#8217; referred to the brainwash going down (see the same post again pls).  I totally agree, no-one needs *that kind of education*.</p>
<p>Remark: Discipline is taught before the age of 7.  If you still need to test it (and don&#8217;t understand the value of it or think your contemporaries are retards) you already have problems (alcohol etc or not).  The girl you mention will not get it to the level you wish her to, and hoping she will one day is only going to frustrate you (care to bet on it?) <img src='http://nourishingobscurity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Judeo-Christian: it&#8217;s the original problem as goes, the spirituality of it is weak, which is why it&#8217;s been annihilated in the first place&#8230; we need better ethics this time round, not myth based emotional stuff that survives humanity.  Seriously, have a listen of this: <a href="http://librivox.org/manners-customs-and-dress-during-the-middle-ages-and-during-the-renaissance-period-by-paul-lacroix/" rel="nofollow">http://librivox.org/manners-customs-and-dress-during-the-middle-ages-and-during-the-renaissance-period-by-paul-lacroix/</a>  &#8212; it was one way of doing things, but it depended on people not thinking too much about life itself.  We need a more robust moral concept that survives individuality and leads by moral reason, not by a life-by-numbers systems.</p>
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