It’s clear from the comments that the fight is not over. The fact that cameron said so has spurred us on to this. It may not work but it might if enough people get behind it.

1. The conservatives will alter nothing in Europe – it’s a fait accompli. The EU never have and never will concede powers back to a state they consider is finished. England is 9 regions on the EU map.

2. The noose is about to be tightened. It’s now or never.

If we could just keep a coalition together long enough to win an election, the separate parties could then decide what they want to do.

The alternative is that the BNP gathers speed and nobody wants that!

The country is sick of these politicians, and most people realise that there is no fundamental difference between the major parties, and they are all rotten to the core.

Those who vote for one of these parties will do so with no enthusiasm, merely because they hate the other ones more, and they fear that if they sit on their hands and don’t vote, they’ll live to regret it.

If you consider what is actually necessary to save this nation, you couldn’t really call it anything less than a revolution. The LibLabCon must be overthrown, and it can be done peacefully, if the right formula can be found.

“Dan Hannan MEP has resigned from the frontbench in the European Parliament. On his website he explains why he still supports a referendum. He has told me that he is staying off the airwaves and adding nothing to his statement on his blog.”

Interesting indeed!

Also, those opposed to the EU are very likely to be opposed to ID (i.e., No2ID groups, etc.

Also, on Facebook, a known Eurosceptic’s page (e.g., Farage) is likey to have Eurosceptic friends.

Cameron was desperate to make sure it wasn’t ratified before the election, because of course he wouldn’t be able to promise a referendum once it was in place. Eurosceptics who suggest otherwise are wrong. Imagine the wording…”If you had had a vote on the Lisbon Treaty, how would you have voted? Yes or No.”

Meanwhile, Brown was desperate to get it ratified before the election, because he knew what kind of position that would put Cameron in and now, if he plays it right, he can goad Cameron on the referendum issue relentlessly and cause a split in the party.

In a way, this validates the Eurosceptic thesis: that the EU was, is and always will be a game played for national interests. There is no common European political society at all, just a convenient institution for politicians’ games.

Nevertheless, consumatum est. The cleverest part of Orwell’s 1984 was the last page, when he mischievously plays with the idea that the protagonist was much happier when he gave up the struggle, stopped forcing himself to hold on to the truth against all the pressure to believe the lies, and with an exultant shout runs out into the street to dance in celebration at the phony news of Big Brother’s latest military triumph. For the first time in his life, he feels at peace.

I think a lot of us have got to the stage where it’s either that, or emigration. Ho for Ontario, tendebant manus ripae ulterioris amore…

Nice idea, but feel the thought of a ‘coalition’ with parties retaining their identity and name is a non-starter. Likewise the thought that Hannan and Carswell would jump ship.

What I do agree is that all Eurosceptics do need to get together – it means therefore a new party being formed? Not that much time to get everything agreed, a party set up etc prior to the GE?

Anyway have sent you a PM.

We conservatives have it on the most respectable of authorities.

LPUK in existance for two years only one councillor, Norwich North was a major disappointment. UKIP, how long have you been in existance?, how many Westmister MP’s 0. That is the way it is going to stay. You will never win in this rigged system.

We are solvent, you need a major whipround because you owe quite a bit of cash in Legal fees fighting the Electoral Commission

Either we sink our differences and face the EU State. Your call.

Its not about the number of votes its about the number of seats

that’s what I said, evidence to back it up can be checked by reading old posts on OH and DK’s sites.

No we have no MP at present but I will bet you pound to a pinch of pooh that Nigel will poll more than 36

UKIP have made allowance in their calculations for the same number of dyslexics who mark the LPUK box by confusing it with UKIP….. and decided they pose no threat to UKIP getting a majority.

We’re going to need the total numbers of all of us, retaining our own party structures [I'm dissident "Dry" Tory] and getting this lot out of power – that’s our imperative. Then we can deal with our grievances later. Coalition is the only way. It worked in the last war and in the first – it will work again.

Huh ?

But you still have not got an MP have you ?

“LPUK seems to be quite silent just now but maybe are waiting for their conference before they say anything but they might count on 5-7%”….

Oh dear dear dear, wishful thinking trumps all rational thought.

What would be helpful would be for UKIP and LPUK not to field candidates against know Eurosceptic or indeed any Conservative candidates for this election only.

This would save you money and deliver a gift of say 10 – 15 seats – which in the final arithmetic of the next general election could be the difference between a Conservative govt and a Lib/Lab pact Govt.

The Lib/Lab pact will probably push for the Euro and common defence structures as well as give in on the forthcoming EU request to hand over our security council seat ( as Brown’s hamfisted down grading of UK diplomatic clout to the G20 from the now almost defunct G7 shows ).

Look at what happened in New York when a minor party forced a republican candidate to withdraw from a election. ( The New York Conservative party – not even the same as the US equivalent).

That’s the way to far more influence than can ever be achieved under the current configuration.

There is a danger that those of us who agree on a Eurosceptic viewpoint will cut of our nose to spite our face and let the Euro-Federalist Lib Dems and Labour dismantle our country.

Bring the jubilee.

Over at Independence Home they seem to have similar ideas, and gioven the way we are right now, it’ slikely the righ ttime to pounce.

For comparison, in the USA Conservative Party candidate is standing against a democrat in New York now that the RINO has jacked in the race and endorsed the Democrat.
On thing’s for sure – we aren’t going to let them get away with selling us to the Reds and the Greens without a fight.